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Âé¶¹´«Ã½ recommends podcast Where the Wild Thoughts Are

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By Catherine de Lange

10 September 2025

Where the Wild Thoughts Are podcast

Jo Marchant’s new podcast, Where the Wild Thoughts Are

Science journalists tend to approach the edges – or dare I say fringes – of science with caution, and rightly so. But former Âé¶¹´«Ã½ staffer and acclaimed journalist Jo Marchant boldly goes there in her new podcast series, .

Each episode features a conversation with a researcher challenging the limits of conventional thinking. I particularly enjoyed the story of biologist and film-maker Tom Mustill, who was out kayaking when a humpback whale breached on top of his boat.

After that brush with death, Mustill became compelled to understand whale behaviour. He talks to Marchant about whether we can actually communicate with whales, and what this might tell us about animal consciousness.

This podcast is a mix of the personal stories that drive scientists and the types of outrageous idea that lead to creative leaps and fresh perspectives, which makes for excellent listening.

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